So You Want To Sell On eBay For USB Memory Flash Drive PenSticks – MP Players – Memory Cards? Can You Make An Honest Profit And Sell Cheap?

Do you want to make a lot of money on eBay fast, selling mp players, memory cards and usb flash drives? If you buy from wholesaler internet sites in China, beware! To many eBay sellers are quick to buy and begin counting the profits as soon as they list! Why? Frequently they buy as low as $5 for a 16GB usb flash drive and sell as high as $25! Sometimes much more. Sounds great doesn’t it?

Unfortunately, most sellers do not bother to do their homework and research the true costs of nand flash chip technology. If they did, they would probably decide to bake cookies to sell at a fund raiser then sell on eBay. The sad fact is, the profit margin is very small for selling true capacity items. Only if you can move in volume will you make a modest profit.

SOSFakeFlash has been forced to introduce a zero tolerance policy for false capacity and or counterfeit flash items sold on eBay because the situation is so bad. Just one investigation with evidence and you as an eBay seller could end up on their fake flash sellers list, even have an alert published on the internet! They have never retracted or removed an alert yet from the internet and they are unlikely to. A seller is required to submit proof that he has refunded every single buyer in full (postage and handling charges too) along with an apology to every buyer. If there is data loss as a result, also compensate the buyer for the loss equivalent to the importance of the data and it’s reconstruction (when possible) – pretty stiff terms don’t you think? No, crying “I am a victim too!” will not get you off the hook, unless you are prepared to do what is required.

Be safe. Be smart. Do your home. Research the items you wish to sell. Test them at random to make sure your supplier doesn’t send you a “mixed box” (true capacity with fake capacity mixed in). If you want to sell a brand name, don’t buy from an Oriental wholesaler site please, unless they are authorized by the brand name. You will only end up with counterfeits and fakes. If the seller says they are authorized, contact the brand name to make sure. It is worth the wait and a few emails. Better than getting into the cross hairs of the battle raging on eBay and losing your seller reputation for ever.

Recently FakeFlashNews published an article we think you should read. It is being published here. You can learn a lot from it. Also see a sample of what SOSFakeFlash will do to an eBay seller caught selling false capacity items. Read on the grading system for nand flash chips and also the current prices in 2009.

Published at FakeFlash News:

Ebay offers very low bid and buy prices for memory cards, mp players and usb flash drives. It gets members excited. Often in a very short period of time, they will buy many items in a period of only one to two weeks. So cheap, so affordable!

Only when the items begin to arrive and the consumer starts having problems with mp players that refuse to load songs after a certain point, or memory cards will not transfer pictures to a PC or error messages begin to appear when attempting to access a file on a usb flash drives do they suspect something is wrong!

Of course there is something wrong! The devices have a low grade memory storage flash nand chip. It is not the size advertised. It can’t be. The price paid was too low for the true costs of the advertised size for the storage chip!

Fake flash sellers sell digitally altered items, reprogrammed to “appear” an advertised size. When victims test or take the items apart, they are able to prove they received an undersized flash nand storage chip from the eBay seller!

One of the best and most recent example is a devious fake flash seller, ebidetrade001 on eBay. FakeFlashNews is republishing an article from SOSFakeFlash. It sums up the experience and conclusions of eBay members who have been frauded for over five years.

From SOSFakeFlash:

ebidetrade001 is an eBay seller of Counterfeit (Fake) Flash USB drives. Registered in Hong Kong, ebidetrade001 is using private auctions to hide his fake flash sellers and using multiple auction listings. More than 500+ items have been sold.

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.

Don’t forget to leave the calling card of “SOSFakeFlash” and “H2testw” in your feedback to help others. Do not change your feedback to get a refund – you will only create more victims. With Private Auctions the only way to defeat the fraudster is make your negative feedback count!

A Victim observes:

I gave this guy the benefit of the doubt because i thought it might have been his supplier who chipped the drive.
However all of his answers to communications through eBay and PayPal dispute show the classic signs of a scammer, as described on your site.

He has now hidden his auctions of this type of item, but all of his other items (e.g. 0.05 cent styluses, etc.) remain in clear view.

After buying this drive I now find him reported as suspect. Pity I didn’t find this site before I bought the item.

Using chipgenius and iflash, I have successfully reflashed this drive to it’s correct 3.6GB capacity and I guess 3.6GB for $14.00 is still cheaper than I can get one here in Australia, but it still leaves a nasty taste in my mouth.

This is the first bad experience that I have has on eBay after more than 200 transactions. I won’t be buying any flash memeory product on eBay ever again.

This is not an unusual reaction to a fake flash experience on eBay, it is the standard reaction. The victim, learned a lesson we all learned the hard way. In taking up the challenge to repair the usb flash drive and succeeding, it is not unusual to end up with a only 3.6 GB instead of 3.9 GB for a 4GB flash chip. It means that the nand storage chip was a reject. Read Genuine Verses Fake Counterfeit USB Flash Drives – A Guide – USB Flash Chips Used In USB Flash Drives – Grades A B C D

In paying $14 AU our victim paid a premium of about 33% for the privilege of acquiring a fake usb flash drive according to the costs in: What Are The Real Costs For Flash Chips In China? Guide 2009 for this usb flash drive:

If only there would be a way to post the information on the cost of nand flash chips on eBay! Just how quickly would the buying and biding stop for most of what is offered in usb flash drives, MP Players and memory cards! eBay would lose one of the most important sources of revenue, eBay members would finally be spared from nightmares resulting from fake flash acquistion. Fraudsters in the Orient and elsewhere would be out of business soon. No demand, no supply.

not yet investigated:

ebidetrade001 addresses:

LAW KWOK CHUNG

ROOM 501, TIN LONG HSE.
TING PING EST.SHEUNG SHUI
N.T.
HONGKONG

zhang yuan lin

12A, Lijingge, Yunjing Haoyuan, Chunfeng Road,
Luohu District
Shenzhen
Guangdong Province
518000
China

To understand about Fake Flash Sellers Read:

• fengfeng_joy2008 Fraud – Conversations between THH And Fake Flash Seller On Fake 32GB Memory Cards. Tale of Denial, Bribery And Violation Of eBay’s Feedback Policies
• FAKE 16GB 32GB 64GB – Conversations Between A Fake Flash Seller and A Victim – The Truth About the Scam Exposed

Important Reading:

• PayPal Refunds Victim Of Fake – False Capacity USB Flash Drives Purchased On Ebay. 8 Month Battle Leads To Success.
• Escalation In False Capacity USB Fake Memory eBay! SOSFakeFlash News July 3rd, 2009
• eBay Victims do not leave positive Feedback or change FB to positive to get refunds!
• eBay – What To Do When Sellers Demands You Change Your Negative Feedback To Positive For A Refund Or Demands Positive As A Condition Of Refund – A Guide
• USB Flash Drives Best Price Bargains Fair Value To Sell Or Buy 8GB 16GB 32GB
• Why Leave Immediate Negative Feedback For an eBay Fake Flash Seller?
• MP Players On Ebay – Current Prices For Cheap Fake 2GB 4GB 8GB 16GB 32 GB SOSFakeFlash’s Report
• SOSFakeFlash Consumer Education Week 20090605 – 20090612. The Problem of Counterfeit and Fake Memory Sold On Ebay

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.

Do You Want To sell Kingston DataTraveler USB Flash Drives On eBay Or the Internet? Becareful.

Recently The FrankenFlash Project uncovered a seller who was determined to sell counterfeit Kingston DataTraveler usb flash drives. The seller operates on eBay and also has an independent site. Operating under the name uk-choice and ukmobi this seller sold fake 8GB usb flash drives. When confronted, instead of removing the items for sale the seller simply changed the listing description to state the capacity found in testing, not realizing just how dangerous it was to consumers. It is a very serious case of fraud.

If you buy from an unauthorized wholesaler of Kingston Technology you are asking for only one thing, trouble. If you think that you are simply cutting out the middle men, and that this explains the lower prices, you are dead wrong! The sad fact is, the profit from selling true capacity usb flash drives, mp players and memory cards is small. To make money, you have to move volume! Too many honest sellers learned this the hard way on eBay, they were forced to close shop and even sell below their costs to try and reclaim at least some of their investment.

Most people think this is a hot selling item with large profits waiting in the wings. Unfortunately this is not true. SOSFakeFlash and FakeMemorySentinel are committed to finding and publishing fake flash sellers on the internet. FakeFlashNews also publishes the most important stories to increase consumer awareness.

If you are thinking of selling do your homework first! You don’t want to be reported at those sites, if they have evidence they will never consider removing it. The FrankenFlash Project is devoted to stopping this problem and there is now a zero tolerance policy in effect.

To see just how some people are so stubborn and motivated by greed and ignorance we are publishing the article presented at FakeFlashNews.

From FakeFlashNews:

Some sellers will do anything to make money. The case of uk-choice and ukmobi demonstrates just how far a seller will go to sell and offload false capacity usb nand technology to consumers causing data loss. This recent case first published at SOSFakeFlash demonstrates that sellers are often ignorant of the technology they sell and are determined to sell the items no matter what.

It is a frightening example. Consumers mean nothing. The reputation of Kingston Technologies means nothing. The only thing that seems important is to SELL! Get the investment back. Those who sell these devices in the Orient know exactly what they are doing. Those who sell these false capacity items in the West show their ignorance, stupidity and their greed.

If you wish to by MP Players, usb flash drives or memory cards, you should stay away from eBay. If you want to buy at an independent internet site, be extremely careful. Frankly Techreporters advises that if you really need these items, buy in a local reputable retail store. It will cost more but you will be spared from potentially becoming a victim and the nightmare that follows from trying to save a little.

The story of uk-choice, ukmobi is a perfect example of what is out there on the internet waiting for you!

From SOSFakeFlash:

uk-choice is an eBay seller of Counterfeit (Fake) Kingston DataTraveler Flash USB drives. Registered in the United Kingdom, uk-choice also has an independent website, ukmobi. This seller is ignorant of the technology he sells. One of the worse examples the FrankenFlash Project has uncovered so far. You will find this example astonishing!

Advertising at 8GB for this model,the photo is correct for the 8GB DataTraveler. Only they actually say the size is 4GB and in fact that is the tested capacity. The information on this fact has also independently been preserved.

Is it possible this seller simply has no understanding of the products he sells, or employee’s don’t?

On eBay uk-choice has released dangerous false capacity usb flash drives for sale. Furthermore, in using private actions for usb flash drives, uk-choice earns the classification of devious. This auction category is the most dangerous for nand based flash technology, it has allowed too many fraudlent sellers to victimize eBay members and to escape detection – increasing the number of victims.

As a result of complaint, what did uk-choice do?

1) Continue to list on eBay

But modify the title, yet show the same correct colour for the Kingston DataTraveler 8GB. Then further down in the listing shows:

Sorry there never was a 4GB Kingston DataTraveler in Black!

2) Makes similar changes at their own website.

Their website: http://www.ukmobi.co.uk/Product_info.asp?id=1501

The FrankenFlash Project has never seen such stupidity or ignorance of technology. Both uk-choice and ukmobi SELL technology. Are you frightened? If not you should be!

The test results for this usb flash drive:

Warning: Only 7983 of 7984 MByte tested.
The media is likely to be defective.
3.9 GByte OK (8285056 sectors)
3.8 GByte DATA LOST (8064128 sectors)
Details:2.8 GByte overwritten (6048096 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
984.3 MByte corrupted (2016032 sectors)
1.5 KByte aliased memory (3 sectors)
First error at offset: 0x00000000fcd70000
Expected: 0x00000000fcd70000
Found: 0x00000000aa55aa55
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 6.45 MByte/s
Reading speed: 18.6 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4

We doubt very much that this fraudster has been staying up all night performing low level formats to return these usb flash drives to the correct size of the actual flash storage chips. Any consumer who uses this flash drive would lose data after 3.9 GB without a corrective to return the usb flash drives to their actual capacity.

Even if uk-choice and ukmobi did this it is fraud. Why? Contact Kingston to ask their opinions!

uk-choice and ukmobi stubborn resolve to unload these dangerous devices to unsuspecting consumers demonstrates just how low some sellers can be. Anything to make money, anything to recover their capital. It doesn’t matter that they are harming Kingston Technologies reputation or causing data loss to consumers.

Profit at any cost, is the mantra uk-choice and ukmobi chant.

Full Report Ebay 200804 – 200905 Counterfeit And Fake Memory Cards, MP Players, Flash Memory USB Pensticks Sold On eBay By Seller To Help You Recognize The Fakes

The new edition of the master report on eBay fake flash devices sold by seller now contains 13 months of data. Presented to you by the FrankenFlashProject this new report contains 390 sellers and 1,044 models, the majority with photos used at auction. Previously this report was referred to as the fake flash sellers mug shot report.

In the early months of the battle to rid eBay of these fraudsters, there was less emphasis on documenting and preserving all the fakes investigated. At the time, SOSFakeFlash and Ebayers Against Fake Flash Devices thought through effort and arm twisting eBay would finally wake up after fives years and address the issue. They did not.

Instead, they attempted to hound and persecute those who worked inside eBay addressing the issue and promoting awareness. Many found themselves suspended or locked out, but for each fake flash angel whose wings were singed another soon stepped forward.

As SOSFakeFlash kept investigating and publishing alerts, eBay began to suspend sellers. At first you might think this is postive, but it also gives eBay the ability to immediately remove all of the sellers listings current and previous; to prevent any further negative feedback from accumulating against a seller. As a result SOSFakeFlash documents in advance to ensure evidence remains and is preserved. While this creates a lot of additional overhead and work, it is necessary so that you might have the master report.

SOSFakeFlash’s Investigative Master Report of ebay fake flash sellers. Devices sold from April 2008 to May 2009.

This file is in pdf format. 2.1 MB is size. Contains 65 pages and is in colour.

You the eBay victims, have made this report possible. By reporting to us using the report a fake tab and by fake flash angel cells sending their contributions, together you build this list! It is something no one can deny. It also means people who have said there is a problem on eBay all these years were not making it up. It is real. Of course eBay already knows this, they just do not want the global public to find out. Get your report and review it for yourselves. What are your conclusions?

Continue to fight back. Contact fellow victims of your fake flash seller and rescue them. You will find some willing to join you if you show you are committed to having the seller REMOVED. If you look at the eBay Fake Flash Sellers List and review the current one you will see many fake flash sellers are under suspension. That is the power of YOU!

Quick Detection Genuine or Counterfeit Kingston DT150 32GB DataTraveler Michael’s Guide

eBay is not a safe place to buy usb flash drives. eBay sellers in the orient get a lot of bad press. People are suspicious. But you can just as easily buy a fake or counterfeit flash drive from eBay in the United States, United Kingdom, Europe or even in Australia.

Reprinted from SOSFakeFlash.

The FrankenFlash Project has been busy publishing alerts and documenting Kingston DT150 DataTraveler counterfeits (see articles at the end ). First 32GB fakes appeared, then 64GB fakes and now 32GB fakes have spread to many eBay countries. The United States is a serious target.

What are the signs for a counterfeit 32GB DT150 DataTraveler fake? How can you tell? Michael shows you how.

Michael is a recent victim. He bought from an American eBay seller, tested his drive and found it to be a counterfeit. Immediately Michael created a dispute at Paypal and dialogued with the seller. The seller refunded him but Paypal would not release the funds, demanding he return the counterfeit. In the end both seller and buyer united against PayPal to solve the issue and make the refund come true. See http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/report-a-fake/comment-page-2/#comment-2094

So what does a counterfeit DT150 32GB DataTraveler look like?

There is no laser etching on the usb connector front with serial information or model information. Kingston adds this as a counter measure to counterfeiting. Below is what this etching looks like for a genuine usb flash drive.

Kingston DataTraveler DT150’s are laser etched on their usb plugs with drive model information , size and a serial number too. This is a primary anti-counterfeiting defense. The one shown is for a DT150 64GB flash drive.

Kingston DT150 32GB packaging front. Note this is sealed packaging used by genuine kingston DT150 usb flash drives and not the dead giveaway of plastic snap pack. It also means that counterfeiters are able to duplicate more expensive packaging.

usb plug back of a counterfeit 32GB DT150.

The counterfeit Kingston DT150 32GB packaging back with no serial information and upc code for it. All genuine Kingston DT150’s have this information inside the packaging.

It is unique, every single drive has a different serial. No two drives have the same one. It is missing here. In some counterfeits, you will find a serial label but when you check at Kingstons authentication site you will find it has already been used. It you find in a retail store, they all have the same serial number information on the back, stay away!

Kingston DT150 32GB front LED. In every report so far, the LED does not work. Not surprising really. The insides are different for a fake. The circuit board and connectors are not the same, so how could they make the LED work? The LED is really “pretend”, just to look a bit like the real one. Otherwise everyone would recognize the fake immediately.

Kingston DT150 32GB front. Many people also report the casing is made of lighter material than a genuine version and does not weigh as much.

Kingston DT150 32GB back.

Kingston label is peeling from the casing.

If you bought a counterfeit usb flash drive on eBay please report in to SOSFakeFlash, using the Report A Fake Tab For Information.

Read: Kingston USB Flash Drives – Detect Counterfeits And Fakes – Product Verification

Additional information published by the FrankenFlash Project:

May 27, 2009 Genuine or Counterfeit Kingston DT150 64GB DataTraveler – Quick Detection – A Guide

May 25, 2009 eBay Counterfeit Kingston DT150 64GB DataTraveler USB Flash Drives Revealed – Case of eBay Seller fufu$$

May 20, 2009 fufu$$ And The Counterfeit Kingston DT150 64GB DataTraveler USB Flash Drives

May 19, 2009 celeste_689 Ebay Fake Flash Seller Alert – USA – Counterfeit Kingston DT150 64GB DataTraveler

May 18, 2009 fufu$$ Ebay Fake Flash Seller Alert – Australia – Counterfeit Kingston DT150 64GB DataTraveler

April 12, 2009 minggege99 Ebay Fake Flash Seller High Alert Deregistered – China. eBay and PayPal Try To Block Victims From Refunds For Counterfeit Kingston DT150 32GB DataTraveler 150

April 9, 2009 32GB Kingston DT150 32GB DataTraveler USB Flash Drive Counterfeits eBay Scandal – Wholesale Costs For Counterfeits

March 29, 2009 niuren2008 Ebay Fake Flash Seller High Alert Deregistered – China – Counterfeit DT150 32GB 32 GB Data Traveler 150

The first story:

March 16, 2009 Kingston Counterfeit Fake 32GB DataTraveler 150 USB Flash Drive Found On eBay

Genuine or Counterfeit Kingston DT150 64GB DataTraveler – Quick Detection – A Guide

Kingston DT150 64GB DataTraveler usb flash drive pensticks are being counterfeited – how can you tell? Recently fake Kingston DT150 64GB DataTraveler flash drives began to appear on eBay, it is growing with alarming speed! eBay is not the only place you will find them, they are available at internet wholesaling sites in the orient.

What is the quickest inspection you can do to find out if you bought a counterfeit? Kingston engaves it’s usb connector for the DT150 64GB DataTraveler.

Here are other signs reported by victims when they compare counterfeits to the genuine Kingston DT150 64GB DataTraveler:

1. The main font is slightly (but definitely) different.
2. The actual USB plug is mounted upside down – such that the indicator light (which doesn’t work anyway) is facing downward when the drive is plugged in normally.
3. The lanyard hole is round as opposed the slightly square on the real Kingston.
4. Plastic moulding is poorly finished, with seams and visible.
5. The burgundy coloured outer finish is a very cheap & nasty stick on affair that doesn’t [quite] fit at the edge reliefs.

On a real one the USB connector is engraved and the back of the package has a second Bar Code sticker (see pictures below).

1. The counterfeits don’t have a blue light (although there is a spot for it).
2. The counterfeits are put together backwards, note on the real one pictured here you can see the copper path through the holes in the USB connector on the counterfeits its black from that side because they are backwards.
3. The counterfeit is very light in weight, less half the weight.
4. The best way to tell is the size of registered trademark symbol ® after the words DataTraveler on the front side that has 64GB on it, the counterfeit has a very small ®, about the size of one of the small dots on the surface, on a real one its over twice as big ®, see the pictures and compare.

This is the counterfeit and you can see how tiny the registered trademark symbol ® is compared to the genuine drive. Note that counterfeits unlike a genuine drive can come in several different variations.

The other thing that usually distinguishes genuine Kingston Flash drives from counterfeits is the packaging. Look at the back.

Some counterfeits to have serial number information but you can easliy verify see: Kingston USB Flash Drives – Detect Counterfeits And Fakes – Product Verification Kingston can help with their detection site to determine if the Kingston DT150 64GB DataTraveler you bought is genuine.

If you bought a counterfeit (fake) from a seller on eBay please report in to SOSFakeFlash Report A Fake Tab

Additional reading:

• Wholesale Prices For Fake Sony Kingston Counterfeit USB Flash Drives 16GB 32GB 64Gb 120GB 240GB 360GB 500GB
• 32GB Kingston DT150 32GB DataTraveler USB Flash Drive Counterfeits – Current Wholesale Costs For Fakes
• What Are The Real Costs For Flash Chips In China? Guide 2009

Counterfeit Kingston DT150 64GB DataTraveler Found On eBay

A Counterfeit Kingston DT150 64GB DataTraveler usb flash drive has been found on eBay. It appears that now the 64GB capacity is no longer safe from those who wish to make a profit at the expense of Kingston Technologies.

If you are interested in selling Kingston DT150 64GB DataTraveler usb flash drives and you are planning to import from a wholesaler in the orient – Becareful! Ensure that you test any merchandise you receive for true capacity before you offer it for sale. Use a program such as H2testw 1.4 to do the testing, do not reply on what you might see in properties for an operating system!

With permission from SOSFakeFlash here is the alert they just issued against the seller to warn buyers.

fufu$$ is an eBay seller of Counterfeit (Fake) Flash USB drives. Based in Austrialia fufu$$ has been selling fake Kingston DataTraveler 150 usb flash pen sticks advertised at 64GB. This is the first time an eBay seller has been confirmed to sell counterfeits for the Kingston DT150 in 64GB. Sadly the Kingston DT150 64GB DataTraveler 150 is no longer safe from counterfeiters. Beware!

At the moment SOSFakeFlash does not know the details on how fufu$$ acquired these counterfeit Kingston DT150 64GB DataTraveler 150 usb flash drives. It is suspected that they came from one of those wholesaler sites in the Orient.

SOSFakeFlash STRONGLY ADVISES that any eBay seller who wished to sell any usb flash drives, MP Players, Memory Cards using Flash nand memory technology TEST THEIR MERCHANDISE prior to offering it for sale on eBay. A seller needs to inspect his wares. Relying on a quick operating system verification is not sufficient!

Read: Kingston USB Flash Drives – Detect Counterfeits And Fakes – Product Verification

In a very short period of time fufu$$ earned a lot of money – this false capacity fakes advertised at 64GB commanded very high prices.

The story on eBay seller fufu$$ is not over, it could only just be beginning. Kingston’s reputation has suffered a great deal because their Brand name is being counterfeited. The drives and packaging look similar to the real items. People around the world are finding themselves with fake Kingston merchandise and this is not fair to Kingston. Consumer confidence is being impacted.

While people around the world end up with Kingston fake usb flash drives, do you know where the problem is the greatest?

India.

The damage being done to data and buyers in India is not well reported nor understood by most – they also learn the hard and painful way – through data loss and in many cases virus infections of their machines. Awareness is growing but far too slowly. Like everyone else they are wary of fake usb flash drives, that is why they chose the Kingston Brand in the first place, to avoid getting a fake!

fufu$$ is a local eBay seller. People bought from him because he was in Australia – to avoid getting a fake. It only shows once again, there is no safe country on eBay to buy usb flash drives from. You will find them just as easily in your own home eBay country as you will in the orient! It also demonstrates one more that buying brand names on eBay is not going to protect you from acquiring a fake. You can get a false capacity usb flash drive as a brand name, as you can from a generic usb flash drive.

Given the high prices paid for these counterfeit Kingston DT150 64GB on eBay SOSFakeFlash recommends you do not buy any Kingston DT150 usb flash drives on eBay. Not until eBay addresses the issue of false capacity usb flash drives for sale once and for all! This may seem unfair to some eBay sellers, but how can a buyer distinquish between a true brand name offering and a fake? In the 32GB to 64GB capacity range and the prices that people pay, the risk is just too great.

Important Reading:

• eBay – What To Do When Sellers Demands You Change Your Negative Feedback To Positive For A Refund Or Demands Positive As A Condition Of Refund – A Guide
• USB Flash Drives Best Price Bargains Fair Value To Sell Or Buy 8GB 16GB 32GB
• Why Leave Immediate Negative Feedback For an eBay Fake Flash Seller?
• PayPal Orders You To Return Fake MP Players, Fake MP Players , Fake USB Flash Drives, Fake Memory Cards To Get A Refund? Think Again!
• Genuine Verses Fake Counterfeit USB Flash Drives – A Guide – USB Flash Chips Used – Grades A B C D
• What Are The Real Costs For Flash Chips In China? Guide 2009

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.

Don’t forget to leave the calling card of “SOSFakeFlash” and “H2testw” in your feedback to help others. Do not change your feedback to get a refund – you will only create more victims. See what we have on file.

How eBay Fake Flash Sellers Continue To Sell Fake MP Players, Memory Cards, Usb Flash Drive Pen Sticks – The Case of wholeselling-auctions

You might think that eBay will shut down fake flash sellers of MP Players, usb flash drives and Memory cards as soon as they are reported by ebay members. Not so. In some cases they can continue for years. At the very most eBay suspends them for a few months. One perfect example is ebay seller wholeselling-auctions. This seller has continued to sell for over one year. Selling generic usb flash drives, MP Players and memory cards,wholeselling-auctions rules eBay.

Sadly people searching for bargains in our global recession continue to expect low unrealistic prices. eBay seller wholeselling-auctions leverages buyer desires to unload false capacity devices. SOSFakeFlash recently issued an internet alert on this seller. FlashDriveFacts is republishing it to educate the public. Examine the items wholeselling-auctions has offered. So long as people wish to pay unrealistic prices, sellers such as wholeselling-auctions will make a lot of profit. Buyers will suffer the consequences.

SOSFakeFlash said:

wholeselling-auctions is an eBay seller of Counterfeit (Fake) Flash USB drives, MP Players and Memory Cards. Based in Hong Kong wholeselling-auctions is an old fake flash seller, now using private auction listings.

The first documented fake was in June 2008. wholeselling-auctions is very skilled and slippery in selling false capacity items. He knows exactly what he is selling. His dumps in volume. When the heat turns up, he will hide in his fake flash shell, quietly waiting for a new opportunity.

In the fall of 2008 wholeselling-auctions managed to elude SOSFakeFlash and victims by closing his fake flash shop. No alert was ever published, but he was added on the fake flash honour role – the list of eBay fake flash sellers.

Test anything you bought from this seller and make sure you leave immediate feedback! SOSFakeFlash is listing every fake model investigated and even those not yet confirmed. Just recently returned he has already sold more than 3000+ items. He needs to be removed from eBay permenently. Only eBayers can do that. eBay has done nothing for more than one year. Currently he has earned more than $60,000 US.

Please do not let him get away again!

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device. Every single item and count is needed. Make sure to raise a dispute with PayPal. If you funded with a credit card, you may wish to contact your credit card company to expidite a refund with a reversal. wholeselling-auctions demonstrates what is wrong with eBay and just how bold fake flash sellers are. Scroll through his feedback and contact positive feedback members – ask them to TEST. If you left positive and have discovered you were sold false capacity – do follow up feedback immediately to alert people to the truth!

Don’t forget to leave the calling card of “SOSFakeFlash” and “H2testw” in your feedback to help others. Do not change your feedback to get a refund – you will only create more victims and it will only allow a fake flash seller to continue, do you really want that?

wholeselling-auctions’s address:

ChiWa Wong

Room 718, Blk7. Sah Chuen Hse, Lek Yuen Est. Shatin N.T.
Hong Kong

To see wholeselling-auctions’s negative feedback Please Click Here – review the complete history to see how far back it goes!

May 14th, 2009 – we have 11 eBay listings confirmed fake .

Sold by wholeselling-auctions:

Not yet investigated:

Important Reading:

• eBay – What To Do When Sellers Demands You Change Your Negative Feedback To Positive For A Refund Or Demands Positive As A Condition Of Refund – A Guide
• USB Flash Drives Best Price Bargains Fair Value To Sell Or Buy 8GB 16GB 32GB
• Why Leave Immediate Negative Feedback For an eBay Fake Flash Seller?
• PayPal Orders You To Return Fake MP Players, Fake MP Players , Fake USB Flash Drives, Fake Memory Cards To Get A Refund? Think Again!
• Genuine Verses Fake Counterfeit USB Flash Drives – A Guide – USB Flash Chips Used – Grades A B C D
• What Are The Real Costs For Flash Chips In China? Guide 2009

minggege99 Ebay Fake Flash Seller High Alert Deregistered – China. eBay and PayPal Try To Block Victims From Refunds For Counterfeit Kingston DT150 32GB DataTraveler 150

minggege99 was an eBay seller of Counterfeit (Fake) Flash USB drives. Based in China minggege99 sold over 1600+ counterfeit DT150 32GB 32 GB DataTraveler 150 USB 2.0 Flash Drives. minggege99 is the third eBay id based in China caught selling these counterfeits in one month.

As news of Kingston DT150 32GB counterfeits on eBay spread, eBay quickly deregistered this id leaving buyers stranded. Information on purchases disappeared from their “won list”. SOSFakeFlash noticed victims of minggege99 desperately searching for information and awaited testing results.

ShadowRanger a victim of minggege99 reported:

First, i tried checking the size of the pens, by putting a lot o files inside them. And that caused errors.

Second, i made a lot of research and found various complaints about the issue.

Third, i opened both, found that they have the same chip that and has nothing to do with Kingston. Tried to fix one of the pens with no success.

Last, i received a message from Paypal saying that if i want to become eligible for a refund, i have to send back the items.

And i ask, what for? I’ll just spend more money, and it’s very possible that i don’t get a refund.

ShadowRanger experiences are all too familiar – repeated by thousands of eBayers since 2005 on eBay. Yet the problem continues. In deregistering fake flash seller minggege99, eBay was not trying to help eBayers but hide the fact that this seller managed to list and sell over 1600+ units.

PayPal demanding that the item be returned to the fake flash seller is also too familiar. Their systems are flawed as as SOSFakeFlash and eBay victims have pointed out so many times. They use robotic emailers and templates. There is very little human intelligence involved. PayPal knows better than to demand this people return these items. See PayPal Apologizes To eBayer Ordered Return Counterfeit Items Using Postal Services – Fake Flash eBay Sellers

Still it does not stop. FlashStormer had to break down the doors of Paypal to get them to listen.

ShadowRanger, the newest detective to assist SOSFakeFlash is correct in his conclusions. Most people who send back fake flash items, never get a refund. The seller will claim it never received. Often when the return address is actually real, the item is resold to a new victim.

minggege99, abestpartner0, and niuren2008 together generated over £80,000 in sales. Buyers who reported to Kingston all received the same news – the flash drives counterfeits. In the case of the Kingston DT150 32GB, there is a quick way to determine if it is a counterfeit or not – validation of the serial id on the packaging: Kingston USB Flash Drives – Detect Counterfeits And Fakes – Product Verification

ShadowRanger sent in the results for his fake Kingston DT150 32GB. It tested to a miserable 256MB chip, substandard in very bad condition, only about 232MB usable. The smallest actual capacity on record.

There may be as many as 4,600 eBay members who are victims of these latest counterfeits. First victimized by the fake flash seller, second victimized by eBay removing the evidence of listing and third victimized by PayPal not refunding. In the case of PayPal, they know better. The evidence is very clear. They may promote their “Buyer Protection” but all victims of fake flash know this is spin – not truth.

To get a refund victims will have to fight. It is not simply about money, it is principal. Both eBay are well aware of the problem with fake flash MP Players, Memory Cards and usb flash drives being sold. Some members get refunds easily, read: eBay Member Reveals Latest Information As eBay Struggles To Address Issue of Fake USB Flash Drives, MP Players and Memory Cards being sold and are even given hush money as gift certificates. Most have to fight and refuse to let eBay and PayPal get away with it. PayPal has 180 days to open an investigation on a seller. Is this more spin, or is this a fact? Both eBay and PayPal just hope the buyers will go away. Give up. It is about percentages. How do you feel about this?

The problem not stop until eBay members fight back against fake flash seller, eBay and PayPal. It has been a very bad month for fake flash reports. Tragedy in data loss has been high. Important memories and milestone events in people’s lives stolen forever – impossible to recover.

ShadowRanger’s story and his conclusions explain why this continues on eBay. Both eBay and PayPal are not willing to address the problem. They have chosen to hide behind automation instead of having employees address issues of fraud. eBay in the summer of 2008 said they had 2,000 employee’s who work on issues of addressing fraud. Do you believe this? SOSFakeFlash and victims don’t.

Fight for you refund from fake flash seller minggege99. Do the same if you are a victim of abestpartner0 and niuren2008. As these sellers are deregistered you can not leave any feedback, but you can comment on our posts.

Every dispute filed against one of these sellers is a permanent record that PayPal will have on record. They can not erase them. The facts remain.

minggege99’s shipping address:

Lee Wai Bun

FLAT RM 842 6/Floor
HANG SENGBLDG
64 DES VOEUX RD
CENTRAL
Hong Kong

minggege99 return address According to PayPal:

Rm 1603,Tower C,Binfushiji,shiyi Road,
Kejiyuan,
nanshan Shenzhen
Guangdong 518000
China

Additional Reading:

• 32GB Kingston DT150 32GB DataTraveler USB Flash Drive Counterfeits eBay Scandal – Wholesale Costs For Counterfeits
• niuren2008 Ebay Fake Flash Seller High Alert Deregistered – China – Counterfeit DT150 32GB 32 GB Data Traveler 150
• abestpartner0 Ebay Fake Flash Seller Alert – China – counterfeit DT150 32GB 32 GB Data Traveler 150

Important Reading:

• USB Flash Drives Best Price Bargains Fair Value To Sell Or Buy 8GB 16GB 32GB
• Genuine Verses Fake Counterfeit USB Flash Drives – A Guide – USB Flash Chips Used – Grades A B C D

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device minggege99 or any other eBay seller.

Kingston USB Flash Drives – Detect Counterfeits And Fakes – Product Verification

Did you buy an 8GB, 16GB, 32GB, 64GB, 120GB or 128GB Kingston USB Flash drive you think is a fake or counterfeit? Countries in Asia are very vunerable to these counterfeit items, but Europe and even North America are experiencing an increase of these items circulating for sale. What does Kingston have to say? Is there a tool you can use to check quickly to determine if you have an authentic item? Yes Kingston is aware of the problem and they have set up a web page to help. Yes there is a tool. SOSFakeFlash also found technical support numbers you can call.

Transcend 32GB Counterfeit USB Flash Drive Found On eBay – Latest Brand Name To Impacted – JetFlash V30

Transcend now joins Sony and Kingston as brand names to have counterfeit USB Flash Drives sold on eBay. The model reported to SOSFakeFlash was the old JetFlash V30. This drive was only made up to 16GB in size. Transcend, like Kingston uses colour coding.

Sold on eBay by hellopetpet was a 32GB Flash drive.

Notice the colour band is green. The colour coding chart for the JetFlash V30 shows:

So green would be a 4GB usb flash drive and not a 32GB flash drive. The ebayer who performed the testing with H2testw 1.4 reported what size? 4GB!

This same model (green code) is for sale right now on ebay as 16GB by…

A Buyer And A Seller Speak Fake 8GB 16GB 32GB USB Flash Pendrives Drives On eBay YouTube Videos

SOSFakeFlash has been fighting the issue of Fake MP Players, Memory Cards and Usb Flash Drives for 9 months. The biggest source of these items comes from eBay and have flooded 52 countries so far. On eBay it is an epidemic – often referred to as a plague. It kills data. Sold by unscrupulous ebay sellers these false capacity drives have caused so much harm to eBay members. It’s not just about money. It is the files – gone forever! We have two interesting YouTube video’s we invite you to watch!

Flash Drive Education 101

This article will be revised. It is possible now for 16GB drives to be manufactured in China and some 32GB drives. There have been a few drives investigated that finally are genuine! They are few and are sold at fair prices – not bargain basement.

Before proceeding to Flash Drive Education 101 education and your shopping trip. Please see this new article:

Fake 8GB 16GB 32GB USB Flash Pendrives Drives On eBay YouTube Videos – A Buyer And A Seller Speak

Not one usb flash drive investigated by SOSFakeFlash has delivered a true capacity of more than 8 GB. So far SOSFakeFlash has been concentrating on eBay. Why? It seems to be the largest distribution tunnel of counterfeit USB drives – for internet shopping. eBay has a Global presence – members in many countries. A great place to shop with bargains glore. But when it comes to usb flash drives, it no paradise – it is a nightmare. Honest sellers are buried under the listings for fake drives.

Time for flash drive education, are you ready for a little shopping tour? Let’s head off into cyberspace – destination China. Let’s see the drives as they are offered by the manufactures, their true capacity before they are reprogrammed by the devious into frankenflash!

Flash Drive Education 102

Where can you buy a 16Gb or 32GB true capacity USB flash Drive? Who makes them? What are the brand names and the lesser brand names? Why are they so hard to find on eBay? Are you ready to take Flash Drive Education 102? This is the second lesson in the series and we are off for another shopping trip – destination – United States.